Comments on: The Ripe Environment http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/ Semi-Developed Thoughts on Authentic Learning with Technology. Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:05:17 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: deena http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1845 deena Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:05:17 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1845 Thing 4: Discourse About Discourse: The Ripe Environment I agree that technology should not be used just for the sake of saying you are using technology in the classroom. Only use it if it helps the student better understand the subject matter. They learn technology on their own or in technology classes. Thing 4: Discourse About Discourse: The Ripe Environment
I agree that technology should not be used just for the sake of saying you are using technology in the classroom. Only use it if it helps the student better understand the subject matter. They learn technology on their own or in technology classes.

]]> By: Thing 4 | MCSWeb2.0 Reflection http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1843 Thing 4 | MCSWeb2.0 Reflection Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:46:14 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1843 [...] about these various topics. I now understand through reading Ben Wilkoff’s blog the Ripe Environment that the real importance of the web 2.0 tools is the contribution to collective intelligence. He [...] [...] about these various topics. I now understand through reading Ben Wilkoff’s blog the Ripe Environment that the real importance of the web 2.0 tools is the contribution to collective intelligence. He [...]

]]> By: Thing #4 | Web 2.0...Here I come! http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1842 Thing #4 | Web 2.0...Here I come! Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:04:51 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1842 [...] #5 – The Ripe Environment [...] [...] #5 – The Ripe Environment [...]

]]> By: Post 3, Thing 4 | pgundlach http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1841 Post 3, Thing 4 | pgundlach Mon, 05 Oct 2009 19:11:34 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1841 [...] About Discourse: The Ripe Environment A proposal for getting beyond the tools to the teaching and learning.-This one reminded me a lot of [...] [...] About Discourse: The Ripe Environment A proposal for getting beyond the tools to the teaching and learning.-This one reminded me a lot of [...]

]]> By: Metrotchr http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1837 Metrotchr Thu, 09 Jul 2009 21:12:43 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1837 I also think that a "ripe environment" is important and hopefully we can move towards this end. Students extensively use web 2.0 tools outside of the school environment. I think that since they have an affinity to engage in activities with web2.0 tools it is only natural that we allow their use in schools. We have to train students how to use these tools in different ways that will promote learning. Technology tools are not the end, but only the means to get to a greater understanding of how to use these to gain understanding of the world at large. I also think that a “ripe environment” is important and hopefully we can move towards this end. Students extensively use web 2.0 tools outside of the school environment. I think that since they have an affinity to engage in activities with web2.0 tools it is only natural that we allow their use in schools. We have to train students how to use these tools in different ways that will promote learning. Technology tools are not the end, but only the means to get to a greater understanding of how to use these to gain understanding of the world at large.

]]> By: John Urgese http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1833 John Urgese Mon, 22 Jun 2009 14:22:14 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1833 What is magical about 4 years of HS? Why not 2,3,5,6? The obvious reasons are: what would they do/where would they go/do we have the space? If you can, read, write and do basic math, do you need formal ed. to get the rest? The 19th/20th century model is tough to break. Home schooling helps but the drawback there include the following: someone has to be home to organize it, , where do you get the necessary social skills, how do you enrich the academic with physical, artistic, and extra-curricular? Do what you can to keep the "ship" pointed downstream. What is magical about 4 years of HS?
Why not 2,3,5,6?
The obvious reasons are: what would they do/where would they go/do we have the space?
If you can, read, write and do basic math, do you need formal ed. to get the rest?
The 19th/20th century model is tough to break. Home schooling helps but the drawback there include the following: someone has to be home to organize it, , where do you get the necessary social skills, how do you enrich the academic with physical, artistic, and extra-curricular?
Do what you can to keep the “ship” pointed downstream.

]]> By: THING 7c BLOGGING | BOSTBLOG http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1828 THING 7c BLOGGING | BOSTBLOG Sun, 22 Mar 2009 02:40:24 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1828 [...] must encourage our students to use the tools of web 2.0.  We must also provide them with a ripe environment to help them grow their blogs. < Posted by rjbost Filed in Uncategorized Create a free [...] [...] must encourage our students to use the tools of web 2.0.  We must also provide them with a ripe environment to help them grow their blogs. < Posted by rjbost Filed in Uncategorized Create a free [...]

]]> By: Web 2.0 Learning Tools » Blog Archive » Thing “Four” TP1 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1823 Web 2.0 Learning Tools » Blog Archive » Thing “Four” TP1 Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:07:04 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1823 [...] the “The Ripe Environment,” blog, strong ideas are presented regarding using technology for technology’s sake and [...] [...] the “The Ripe Environment,” blog, strong ideas are presented regarding using technology for technology’s sake and [...]

]]> By: Sohbet http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1822 Sohbet Tue, 10 Feb 2009 14:54:37 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1822 Location Turkiyenin en iyi chat sohbet sitesi Location Turkiyenin en iyi chat sohbet sitesi

]]> By: tina amores http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1821 tina amores Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:08:17 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1821 I like the last statement you made about knowing that meetings, conferences, and workshops are NOT the places where the most powerful learning takes place. I get so tired of all these workshops that really feel like a waste of our time as teachers of which I have to sit in 2 of them tomorrow. I hope to follow your lead. I like the last statement you made about knowing that meetings, conferences, and workshops are NOT the places where the most powerful learning takes place. I get so tired of all these workshops that really feel like a waste of our time as teachers of which I have to sit in 2 of them tomorrow. I hope to follow your lead.

]]> By: Session Two - Thing Four - Blogging Begins With Reading | Debbie's Blog for K12 Learning 2.0 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1820 Session Two - Thing Four - Blogging Begins With Reading | Debbie's Blog for K12 Learning 2.0 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 23:04:50 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1820 [...] author has established the blog for the purpose of specifying 10 prerequisites for collaboration as a way of creating The Ripe Environment in the classroom, in a school, and in a district.  As [...] [...] author has established the blog for the purpose of specifying 10 prerequisites for collaboration as a way of creating The Ripe Environment in the classroom, in a school, and in a district.  As [...]

]]> By: Session Two - Thing 4: Blogging Begins With Reading | Debbie's Blog for K12 Learning 2.0 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1819 Session Two - Thing 4: Blogging Begins With Reading | Debbie's Blog for K12 Learning 2.0 Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:31:42 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1819 [...] through their own creation.   The author has established the blog for the purpose of specifying 10 prerequisites for collaboration as a way of creating The Ripe Environment in the classroom, in a school, and in a district.  As [...] [...] through their own creation.   The author has established the blog for the purpose of specifying 10 prerequisites for collaboration as a way of creating The Ripe Environment in the classroom, in a school, and in a district.  As [...]

]]> By: Deborah http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1818 Deborah Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:28:52 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1818 I think you are on the right track, but I still believe there has to be somewhere (conferences or workshops) where people are brought together for a common purpose to learn??? Most people are lazy and won't do what they are made to do... I think you are on the right track, but I still believe there has to be somewhere (conferences or workshops) where people are brought together for a common purpose to learn??? Most people are lazy and won’t do what they are made to do…

]]> By: perde http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-2/#comment-1817 perde Tue, 27 Jan 2009 23:05:47 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1817 perdeler ve perde modelleri perdeler ve perde modelleri

]]> By: msn nickleri msn http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1810 msn nickleri msn Thu, 25 Dec 2008 11:26:25 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1810 thank youu thank youu

]]> By: Thing 4 | Media Bites http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1808 Thing 4 | Media Bites Sun, 14 Dec 2008 21:35:48 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1808 [...] learning can take place. It is more a matter of implementation to ensure that learning is enhanced. Discourse about discourse-the ripe environment goes beyond the usefulness of tools in education to their use in learning. I think that there is [...] [...] learning can take place. It is more a matter of implementation to ensure that learning is enhanced. Discourse about discourse-the ripe environment goes beyond the usefulness of tools in education to their use in learning. I think that there is [...]

]]> By: msn nickleri http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1803 msn nickleri Wed, 22 Oct 2008 11:56:58 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1803 Hmm, thanks man.. Perfect.. Hmm, thanks man.. Perfect..

]]> By: Thing #4 - What is Blogging? | Fincher's Learning 2.0 Blog http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1802 Thing #4 - What is Blogging? | Fincher's Learning 2.0 Blog Mon, 20 Oct 2008 01:08:15 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1802 [...] i am starting to get the picture.  My favorite of the 5 blogs was Ben Wilkoff’s blog about The Ripe Environment.  This one hit me exactly the way i feel about all of this new technology. Ok. We have it, but [...] [...] i am starting to get the picture.  My favorite of the 5 blogs was Ben Wilkoff’s blog about The Ripe Environment.  This one hit me exactly the way i feel about all of this new technology. Ok. We have it, but [...]

]]> By: Thing 4 - The Ripe Environment | Traci Redish http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1801 Thing 4 - The Ripe Environment | Traci Redish Sun, 19 Oct 2008 22:04:27 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1801 [...] really enjoyed reading about the “Ripe Environment.” I agree with the author that I am also tired of hearing about the tools. It’s time to [...] [...] really enjoyed reading about the “Ripe Environment.” I agree with the author that I am also tired of hearing about the tools. It’s time to [...]

]]> By: Thing #4–A Collection of Blogs | Linda's class blog http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1800 Thing #4–A Collection of Blogs | Linda's class blog Sat, 18 Oct 2008 15:12:50 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1800 [...] reform. After doing a couple of trainings with teachers this week, I could really relate to ”The Ripe Environment“. It really made me think about the differences in knowing how to use a tool, and [...] [...] reform. After doing a couple of trainings with teachers this week, I could really relate to ”The Ripe Environment“. It really made me think about the differences in knowing how to use a tool, and [...]

]]> By: Reflections on blogging Thing #4 take 2 | Web 2.0 Portfolio http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1799 Reflections on blogging Thing #4 take 2 | Web 2.0 Portfolio Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:14:04 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1799 [...] thought of all of the ways this could change my teaching. I really liked what was said in “The Ripe Environment” How can we get beyond all of the talk and create the environment he [...] [...] thought of all of the ways this could change my teaching. I really liked what was said in “The Ripe Environment” How can we get beyond all of the talk and create the environment he [...]

]]> By: Thing 4: Blogging Begins with Reading | Library Lion http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1798 Thing 4: Blogging Begins with Reading | Library Lion Sun, 21 Sep 2008 20:39:25 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1798 [...] The Ripe Environment post certainly gives us a reason to respond.  In it, the author of the blog raises questions about the validity of using technology for the sake of technology.  The comments generated by this post reflect the many different ways in which other educational professionals have arrived at the same conclusion:  that the focused implementation of any technological tool, especially interactive tools, must paramount in making the use of such a tool an effective learning experience. [...] [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment's server IP (72.34.61.211) doesn't match the comment's URL host IP () and so is spam. [...] The Ripe Environment post certainly gives us a reason to respond.  In it, the author of the blog raises questions about the validity of using technology for the sake of technology.  The comments generated by this post reflect the many different ways in which other educational professionals have arrived at the same conclusion:  that the focused implementation of any technological tool, especially interactive tools, must paramount in making the use of such a tool an effective learning experience. [...]

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]]> By: Thing 4 | Travel Diaries of a Web 2.0 Newbie http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1797 Thing 4 | Travel Diaries of a Web 2.0 Newbie Fri, 19 Sep 2008 22:23:06 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1797 [...] Ripe environment [...] [WORDPRESS HASHCASH] The comment's server IP (72.34.53.165) doesn't match the comment's URL host IP () and so is spam. [...] Ripe environment [...]

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]]> By: 2007 EduBlog Awards | Networked Learner News http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1794 2007 EduBlog Awards | Networked Learner News Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:31:44 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1794 [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...] [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...]

]]> By: Explore/Discover Blogs Discussion | Pollard Tech Camp http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1793 Explore/Discover Blogs Discussion | Pollard Tech Camp Mon, 21 Jul 2008 10:48:19 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1793 [...] About Discourse: The Ripe Environment A proposal for getting beyond the tools to the teaching and [...] [...] About Discourse: The Ripe Environment A proposal for getting beyond the tools to the teaching and [...]

]]> By: Networked Learner News » Blog Archive » 2007 EduBlog Awards http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1792 Networked Learner News » Blog Archive » 2007 EduBlog Awards Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:52:29 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1792 [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...] [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...]

]]> By: ytml http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1790 ytml Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:55:01 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1790 thanks man very god thanks man very god

]]> By: +18 oyun http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1787 +18 oyun Thu, 26 Jun 2008 17:53:01 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1787 thnaks you thnaks you

]]> By: Thing 4 - Blogging begins with reading | HIES LS Library Blog http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1786 Thing 4 - Blogging begins with reading | HIES LS Library Blog Fri, 20 Jun 2008 14:51:28 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1786 [...] about ways I can use blogs with my students. Then further justification and ideas can be found in The Ripe Environment where I learn about all the tools that can be used in my blog. But I didn’t stop there! Will [...] [...] about ways I can use blogs with my students. Then further justification and ideas can be found in The Ripe Environment where I learn about all the tools that can be used in my blog. But I didn’t stop there! Will [...]

]]> By: Thing 4 | Mendy's Thoughts: Web 2.0 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1785 Thing 4 | Mendy's Thoughts: Web 2.0 Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:11:03 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1785 [...] also looked at The Ripe Enironment http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/.  I like the way it was organized more than the other blog.  It is not as busy and I was able to [...] [...] also looked at The Ripe Enironment http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/.  I like the way it was organized more than the other blog.  It is not as busy and I was able to [...]

]]> By: trapzone http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1784 trapzone Mon, 12 May 2008 23:29:57 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1784 We need kids to be life-long knowers of certain things. We want them to be able to use the math skills that they learned in 9th grade in life, not just in 10-12 grade. The only way to make that happen is to provide a Ripe Environment. We need kids to be life-long knowers of certain things. We want them to be able to use the math skills that they learned in 9th grade in life, not just in 10-12 grade. The only way to make that happen is to provide a Ripe Environment.

]]> By: Forum high http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1781 Forum high Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:43:40 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1781 thanks thanks

]]> By: birtanem http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1780 birtanem Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:07:37 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1780 really good subject really good subject

]]> By: Sex Hikayeleri http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1777 Sex Hikayeleri Mon, 28 Apr 2008 21:06:01 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1777 The Ripe Environment The Ripe Environment

]]> By: Tamislam http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1773 Tamislam Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:07:38 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1773 thanks thanks

]]> By: Ciddinet http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1772 Ciddinet Sun, 27 Apr 2008 12:06:54 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1772 Ben - I know you haven’t mentioned it yet, but congratulations on your Eddie nomination! Good luck. Ben – I know you haven’t mentioned it yet, but congratulations on your Eddie nomination! Good luck.

]]> By: flower http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1768 flower Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:24:42 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1768 Ironically — as a School 2.0 proponent — I’m not sure it was ever about the technologies. From my opinion, it’s always been about fostering 2-way conversations via a “ripe environment”. The tools are just a means to an end or a delightful rabbit hole to explore on occasion. Ironically — as a School 2.0 proponent — I’m not sure it was ever about the technologies. From my opinion, it’s always been about fostering 2-way conversations via a “ripe environment”. The tools are just a means to an end or a delightful rabbit hole to explore on occasion.

]]> By: indir http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1767 indir Sun, 27 Apr 2008 10:07:52 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1767 I think your last two points are a bit too pessimistic, which is understandable given that most of our current institutions in the US are completely screwed up, in part by design. What is necessary is to create institutions and meetings, etc. that promote individual growth and change. That is very possible, and indeed, essential. Take lesson study in Japan, for example. I think your last two points are a bit too pessimistic, which is understandable given that most of our current institutions in the US are completely screwed up, in part by design. What is necessary is to create institutions and meetings, etc. that promote individual growth and change. That is very possible, and indeed, essential. Take lesson study in Japan, for example.

]]> By: THING 4: Blogging Begins with Reading | technolgy@lva http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1763 THING 4: Blogging Begins with Reading | technolgy@lva Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:29:02 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1763 [...] next bog I read was The Ripe Enviorment  was very appealing. I believe that all the “tools” and all the [...] [...] next bog I read was The Ripe Enviorment  was very appealing. I believe that all the “tools” and all the [...]

]]> By: English Education Professor » Blog Archive » » The Ripe Environment Discourse about Discourse http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1744 English Education Professor » Blog Archive » » The Ripe Environment Discourse about Discourse Mon, 31 Dec 2007 03:38:11 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1744 [...] » The Ripe Environment Discourse about Discourse [...] [...] » The Ripe Environment Discourse about Discourse [...]

]]> By: The ripe environment discourse « Peabloggy http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1742 The ripe environment discourse « Peabloggy Sat, 29 Dec 2007 17:28:39 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1742 [...] Wilkoff’s post, The Ripe Environment Discourse, raises some thought-provoking points on collaboration, and pushes for a more meaningful use of [...] [...] Wilkoff’s post, The Ripe Environment Discourse, raises some thought-provoking points on collaboration, and pushes for a more meaningful use of [...]

]]> By: Learning is Change. » Blog Archive » Why do I want to work here? http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1738 Learning is Change. » Blog Archive » Why do I want to work here? Tue, 18 Dec 2007 05:21:06 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1738 [...] 00:01:51: The Ripe Environment The First Blog Post [...] [...] 00:01:51: The Ripe Environment The First Blog Post [...]

]]> By: Learning is Change. » Blog Archive » Discourse about Discourse: Educasts Archive http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1732 Learning is Change. » Blog Archive » Discourse about Discourse: Educasts Archive Sun, 16 Dec 2007 05:10:57 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1732 [...] 00:01:51: The Ripe Environment The First Blog Post [...] [...] 00:01:51: The Ripe Environment The First Blog Post [...]

]]> By: blog of proximal development » Blog Archive » 2007 EduBlog Awards http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1727 blog of proximal development » Blog Archive » 2007 EduBlog Awards Tue, 04 Dec 2007 04:24:40 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1727 [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...] [...] Wilkoff’s The Ripe Environment Karl Fisch’s Is it Okay to be a Technologically Illiterate Teacher? Kris Bradburn’s How [...]

]]> By: Glenn http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1714 Glenn Tue, 27 Nov 2007 06:17:54 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1714 Ben - I know you haven't mentioned it yet, but congratulations on your Eddie nomination! Good luck. Ben – I know you haven’t mentioned it yet, but congratulations on your Eddie nomination! Good luck.

]]> By: » Edublog Awards 2007 Finalists Announced! The Edublog Awards http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1700 » Edublog Awards 2007 Finalists Announced! The Edublog Awards Mon, 26 Nov 2007 02:32:31 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1700 [...] Gone Fischin’ - Dangerously Irrelevant How to Grow a Blog - blog of proximal development How to Prevent Another Leonardo da Vinci - Wandering Ink Is It Okay To Be A Technologically Illiterate Teacher? - The Fischbowl The Ripe Environment - Discourse about Discourse [...] [...] Gone Fischin’ – Dangerously Irrelevant How to Grow a Blog – blog of proximal development How to Prevent Another Leonardo da Vinci – Wandering Ink Is It Okay To Be A Technologically Illiterate Teacher? – The Fischbowl The Ripe Environment – Discourse about Discourse [...]

]]> By: My 2007 Edublog Award nominations « ThinkTime http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1681 My 2007 Edublog Award nominations « ThinkTime Tue, 20 Nov 2007 03:25:57 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1681 [...] influential blog post The Ripe Environment at Discourse about Discourse by Ben Wilkoff Without question this award will go to Did You [...] [...] influential blog post The Ripe Environment at Discourse about Discourse by Ben Wilkoff Without question this award will go to Did You [...]

]]> By: Action plan for independent study, fall 2007 « ThinkTime http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1655 Action plan for independent study, fall 2007 « ThinkTime Fri, 14 Sep 2007 13:02:13 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1655 [...] (This is the most important part of the inquiry, getting close to what Ben Wilkoff calls The Ripe Environment. What kinds of change must occur in our attitudes to create institutional cultures that encourage [...] [...] (This is the most important part of the inquiry, getting close to what Ben Wilkoff calls The Ripe Environment. What kinds of change must occur in our attitudes to create institutional cultures that encourage [...]

]]> By: Discourse about Discourse » Blog Archive » The Ripe Environment: It’s the content, stupid. http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1653 Discourse about Discourse » Blog Archive » The Ripe Environment: It’s the content, stupid. Thu, 13 Sep 2007 12:44:28 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1653 [...] has taken me quite a while to figure out how to come back to The Ripe Environment with all of the things that I am doing within my school. It came to me when my students were [...] [...] has taken me quite a while to figure out how to come back to The Ripe Environment with all of the things that I am doing within my school. It came to me when my students were [...]

]]> By: TPN :: Education Transformation » Blog Archive » Education Transformation #4: The New Professional Development http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1644 TPN :: Education Transformation » Blog Archive » Education Transformation #4: The New Professional Development Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:14:40 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1644 [...] The Ripe Environment [...] [...] The Ripe Environment [...]

]]> By: Diane Hammond http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1639 Diane Hammond Tue, 17 Jul 2007 01:31:37 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1639 "3. Have the time to connect more than two dots together." Is time really the issue? There will never be enough time to accomplish everything you want, and if something is really important to you, you will re-arrange things to make time. Connecting the dots shouldn't be a solitary pursuit; sometimes you encounter a block and can't make the connection no matter how much time you have. Connecting the dots with at least one other person should maybe be the jumping off point for collaborating. “3. Have the time to connect more than two dots together.”

Is time really the issue? There will never be enough time to accomplish everything you want, and if something is really important to you, you will re-arrange things to make time. Connecting the dots shouldn’t be a solitary pursuit; sometimes you encounter a block and can’t make the connection no matter how much time you have. Connecting the dots with at least one other person should maybe be the jumping off point for collaborating.

]]> By: PlansForUs Blog » Blog Archive » Multi-Tier Connections in the Rich Environment http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1637 PlansForUs Blog » Blog Archive » Multi-Tier Connections in the Rich Environment Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:34:15 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1637 [...] of how technology should be put to use in the classroom is articulated in a series entitled the Ripe Environment. The core thought behind this series is that technology is worthless without usage, so lets stop [...] [...] of how technology should be put to use in the classroom is articulated in a series entitled the Ripe Environment. The core thought behind this series is that technology is worthless without usage, so lets stop [...]

]]> By: Jo McLeay http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1636 Jo McLeay Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:17:42 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1636 Hi Ben, just listening to your podcasts and belatedly catching up on this post. I believe you are right. It resonates with me, particularly point 10. Will keep following the discussion with interest (from Australia in the grip of winter) Jo Hi Ben, just listening to your podcasts and belatedly catching up on this post. I believe you are right. It resonates with me, particularly point 10. Will keep following the discussion with interest (from Australia in the grip of winter)
Jo

]]> By: Next steps « Connecting Through Conversations http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1635 Next steps « Connecting Through Conversations Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:17:48 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1635 [...] education to engage students in their learning more than ever before Chris Lehmann, David Warlick, Ben Wilkoff, Jeff Utecht and how do we begin to show others the value of these resources for collaboration or [...] [...] education to engage students in their learning more than ever before Chris Lehmann, David Warlick, Ben Wilkoff, Jeff Utecht and how do we begin to show others the value of these resources for collaboration or [...]

]]> By: yongesonne http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1631 yongesonne Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:12:35 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1631 Tom: Perhaps the last two statements can be rewritten to make them more positive, but I think that they would not be as descriptive then. I don't want to define The Ripe Environment by what it is not, but to a certain extent, we have to decide what we really want to change. I believe that most educators already believe that most meetings are not the places where they have the most profound learning. I do not view it as pessimism, but rather, an honest observation. I also believe that institutionalized change is called the status quo, and most people already realize this. I'm not sure that it makes sense to beat around the bush with these two statements, but I really would like them to be as applicable to all educators as possible. Does anyone have suggestions for revising them to be more positive, without getting rid of the potency? Tom:
Perhaps the last two statements can be rewritten to make them more positive, but I think that they would not be as descriptive then. I don’t want to define The Ripe Environment by what it is not, but to a certain extent, we have to decide what we really want to change. I believe that most educators already believe that most meetings are not the places where they have the most profound learning. I do not view it as pessimism, but rather, an honest observation.

I also believe that institutionalized change is called the status quo, and most people already realize this. I’m not sure that it makes sense to beat around the bush with these two statements, but I really would like them to be as applicable to all educators as possible. Does anyone have suggestions for revising them to be more positive, without getting rid of the potency?

]]> By: Discourse about Discourse » Blog Archive » The Ripe Environment: Connection http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1627 Discourse about Discourse » Blog Archive » The Ripe Environment: Connection Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:12:12 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1627 [...] is the first in a series of posts about The Ripe Environment, my thoughts on how to create a space for educators and learners to want to become better educators [...] [...] is the first in a series of posts about The Ripe Environment, my thoughts on how to create a space for educators and learners to want to become better educators [...]

]]> By: Tom Hoffman http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1619 Tom Hoffman Wed, 04 Jul 2007 16:00:42 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1619 I think your last two points are a bit too pessimistic, which is understandable given that most of our current institutions in the US are completely screwed up, in part by design. What is necessary is to create institutions and meetings, etc. that promote individual growth and change. That is very possible, and indeed, essential. Take lesson study in Japan, for example. I think your last two points are a bit too pessimistic, which is understandable given that most of our current institutions in the US are completely screwed up, in part by design. What is necessary is to create institutions and meetings, etc. that promote individual growth and change. That is very possible, and indeed, essential. Take lesson study in Japan, for example.

]]> By: Paul Hillsdon http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1612 Paul Hillsdon Tue, 03 Jul 2007 04:47:30 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1612 As I student, I am glad some adult has finally posted this. Tools are great, but without the proper environment in which to use these tools, you've got nothing. Great observation :) As I student, I am glad some adult has finally posted this. Tools are great, but without the proper environment in which to use these tools, you’ve got nothing. Great observation :)

]]> By: Teachers 2.0 « The TechKnow Blog http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1611 Teachers 2.0 « The TechKnow Blog Mon, 02 Jul 2007 23:43:35 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1611 [...] using it? After reading Ben Wilkoff’s post this morning, I’m wondering how set up “The Ripe Environment” for my teachers. I’m still digesting this and wondering what else I could inject - [...] [...] using it? After reading Ben Wilkoff’s post this morning, I’m wondering how set up “The Ripe Environment” for my teachers. I’m still digesting this and wondering what else I could inject – [...]

]]> By: Ben Wilkoff http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 Ben Wilkoff Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:29:44 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1609 Carolyn, Thanks for your comment. I really think that your questions are right on, especially about teachers not knowing about the value of their own contributions. How do you think that we can value one onother's contributions other than by using them in the classroom, or by providing monitary rewards? Do you think that collaborative value is enough to keep people collaborating? It is for me, but perhaps not for everyone. Carolyn,
Thanks for your comment. I really think that your questions are right on, especially about teachers not knowing about the value of their own contributions. How do you think that we can value one onother’s contributions other than by using them in the classroom, or by providing monitary rewards? Do you think that collaborative value is enough to keep people collaborating? It is for me, but perhaps not for everyone.

]]> By: Ben Wilkoff http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1608 Ben Wilkoff Mon, 02 Jul 2007 21:22:32 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1608 Diana- I can't help but think that most teachers do want students to know how to find information and learning for themselves. The struggle isn't really with what is being mandated; it is with what isn't being mandated. The critical inquiry piece should be something that is written into every standard, and the process of learning should be held as paramount. I think that if each teacher takes an inquiry aproach to their content, students will not only know "the stuff," they will know how to find, evaluate, and create "the stuff." We are not trying to give one another something extra to do, we are instead trying to provide an environment that allows students to retain all of the information that is "tested." We all hear about life-long learning, but I think that there is still virtue in knowing. We need kids to be life-long knowers of certain things. We want them to be able to use the math skills that they learned in 9th grade in life, not just in 10-12 grade. The only way to make that happen is to provide a Ripe Environment. I guess that I don't see the "Standards Movement" and the "School 2.0 Movement " as being at odds. In fact, I think that the only way to make School 2.0 happen is to make sure that Standards are a part of it. What do you think, though? Can we put both of these (seemingly) opposing forces together and make it work? Diana-
I can’t help but think that most teachers do want students to know how to find information and learning for themselves. The struggle isn’t really with what is being mandated; it is with what isn’t being mandated. The critical inquiry piece should be something that is written into every standard, and the process of learning should be held as paramount. I think that if each teacher takes an inquiry aproach to their content, students will not only know “the stuff,” they will know how to find, evaluate, and create “the stuff.” We are not trying to give one another something extra to do, we are instead trying to provide an environment that allows students to retain all of the information that is “tested.” We all hear about life-long learning, but I think that there is still virtue in knowing. We need kids to be life-long knowers of certain things. We want them to be able to use the math skills that they learned in 9th grade in life, not just in 10-12 grade. The only way to make that happen is to provide a Ripe Environment. I guess that I don’t see the “Standards Movement” and the “School 2.0 Movement ” as being at odds. In fact, I think that the only way to make School 2.0 happen is to make sure that Standards are a part of it. What do you think, though? Can we put both of these (seemingly) opposing forces together and make it work?

]]> By: Carolyn Foote http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1606 Carolyn Foote Mon, 02 Jul 2007 20:04:16 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1606 One question I have is do we as teachers always realize we have "walls" between us? And do teachers realize their ideas and products have value? Most of us teach as though we do. But many teachers I've had conversations with, particularly about expressing their ideas through blogging, have expressed to me that they feel they don't have anything to offer. Of course, they have much to offer. If you have a conversation with a teacher, they always have a lot to say about education, about their goals, about what they have tried that works, and about kids. It's the same issue with some students--providing an environment where we support what they have to say and give it credence and value. Tim Tyson talked about this at NECC. On point #10, I do believe teachers know that and when given the freedom to chart their own learning, many of them do so and would like to have more opportunities "within" the institution to do so as well. I'm intrigued by your term the "ripe environment," and think you are so right. I heard someone say that we should determine our instructional purpose first and then choose the best tools to carry it out. Much to think about. thanks for sharing. One question I have is do we as teachers always realize we have “walls” between us? And do teachers realize their ideas and products have value?

Most of us teach as though we do. But many teachers I’ve had conversations with, particularly about expressing their ideas through blogging, have expressed to me that they feel they don’t have anything to offer.

Of course, they have much to offer. If you have a conversation with a teacher, they always have a lot to say about education, about their goals, about what they have tried that works, and about kids.

It’s the same issue with some students–providing an environment where we support what they have to say and give it credence and value. Tim Tyson talked about this at NECC.

On point #10, I do believe teachers know that and when given the freedom to chart their own learning, many of them do so and would like to have more opportunities “within” the institution to do so as well.

I’m intrigued by your term the “ripe environment,” and think you are so right. I heard someone say that we should determine our instructional purpose first and then choose the best tools to carry it out.

Much to think about. thanks for sharing.

]]> By: Diana Laufenberg http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1604 Diana Laufenberg Mon, 02 Jul 2007 14:12:25 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1604 It seems to me your third point is one that gets in the way for the others to even occur. Many teachers see learning as a very linear process for their students, expecially in the age of testing. I personally feel as though the struggle for other educators to foster a ripe environment is that they feel as though the job requires having the conversation dictated by the state/feds. How do we address the conflict between government mandates and the neccessities for the Ripe Environment? Thanks for the 'food for thought'! Diana It seems to me your third point is one that gets in the way for the others to even occur. Many teachers see learning as a very linear process for their students, expecially in the age of testing. I personally feel as though the struggle for other educators to foster a ripe environment is that they feel as though the job requires having the conversation dictated by the state/feds. How do we address the conflict between government mandates and the neccessities for the Ripe Environment?

Thanks for the ‘food for thought’!
Diana

]]> By: Christian Long http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/comment-page-1/#comment-1603 Christian Long Mon, 02 Jul 2007 02:57:21 +0000 http://yongesonne.edublogs.org/2007/06/29/the-ripe-environment/#comment-1603 One of the most important blog entries I've read in 2+ years, Ben. Thank you for pushing on the right side of the rock as we all head up the steep learning curve. Ironically -- as a School 2.0 proponent -- I'm not sure it was ever about the technologies. From my opinion, it's always been about fostering 2-way conversations via a "ripe environment". The tools are just a means to an end or a delightful rabbit hole to explore on occasion. Look forward to seeing you develop each of the 10 components in time. Cheers, Christian "think:lab" One of the most important blog entries I’ve read in 2+ years, Ben. Thank you for pushing on the right side of the rock as we all head up the steep learning curve.

Ironically — as a School 2.0 proponent — I’m not sure it was ever about the technologies. From my opinion, it’s always been about fostering 2-way conversations via a “ripe environment”. The tools are just a means to an end or a delightful rabbit hole to explore on occasion.

Look forward to seeing you develop each of the 10 components in time.

Cheers,
Christian
“think:lab”

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